nerd
5:36 Fri May 7
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True
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Eerie Descent
4:30 Fri May 7
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They'll never do the sensible thing, nerd son, as that would not make it INCLUSIVE.
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nerd
4:14 Fri May 7
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I coach u15 girls and u11 boys , there is a difference but it is mainly the variance of speed , boys are quite similar in pace where as girls some are so slow and some are whippets. This then changes the style a bit , girls more tackles and more direct where boys game is now less tackles and passing to death. Then there is the goals , womens tallest keepers are 5'10-6'0 mens 6'0 upwards , like the cricket did make the goals smaller , some of these keepers are 5'5 its ridiculous. This then makes the style different again as defender's tend to stay in position and cannot push forward like the mens game. The quality is rising at a huge rate and so is the amount of players. But its a different sport and much like the 100m at the Olympics , we like the ladies final and damn there fast , but who won where as the mens is the fastest human around and we all love it.
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Mike Oxsaw
4:01 Fri May 7
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gregan 3:24 Fri May 7
The men's game grew without it being on TV.
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Vexed
3:52 Fri May 7
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gregan 3:24 Fri May 7
I wont, but why should I have to pay for it?
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El Scorchio
3:46 Fri May 7
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The huge problem it has is the massive gap between the top few teams in terms of money and players. They have a great opportunity to build in parity from the ground up, but of course they won't.
It's like the Spanish league where only a few games a season are actually meaningful because you KNOW Chelsea or Man City are going to thump West Ham, Villa or Reading 6-0 every time they play. The smaller clubs simply cannot compete and the gulf in quality even in one division is huge.
As long as games are competitive, then any level of football (men's or women's) can at least be entertaining or fun to watch, regardless of the quality of the players.
It doesn't help that BT sport think only four teams (Chelsea, Man City, Arsenal, Man U) exist in the game, given all their promotional material revolves exclusively round those sides and they seem to only televise games featuring those clubs. I can see a lot of other clubs packing it in as it's just not worth it.
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Eerie Descent
3:38 Fri May 7
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It's shit to watch, and no amount of being right on will change that.
However, I really think they should make a few changes that could make it a watchable spectacle in It's own right.
If there's all this money they want to pump into it, then build their own stadiums, make the pitches smaller, make the goals smaller so women keepers don't keep getting embarrassed, and make it 9 or 10 a side. That's not being patronising, it just fits the physicality of women better, it'd make it more competitive and entertaining, it'd be it's own sport essentially, thus more watchable. I'd probably tune in to see what it's all about. Nothing sensible like that will happen though.
You won't get people watching it as it is now when there's already a far superior format to watch.
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gregan
3:24 Fri May 7
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Don't watch it mate. TV coverage attracts more investment, players and fans which in turn will improve the game. Hard to grow a game you want banning from TV.
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Vexed
3:13 Fri May 7
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gregan 3:03 Fri May 7
Stick it on the telly when it's improved then. The reason Chelsea school their youngsters etc is 1. to keep them away from all the nonces that Chelsea harbour and 2. because they may become players in a sport that somebody ACTUALLY WANTS TO WATCH which in turn pays for the schooling etc. This wont happen with the womens game for 50 years probably.
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riosleftsock
3:12 Fri May 7
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Its utter shit.
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Vexed
3:09 Fri May 7
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This is classic Sky and BBC not giving their paying customer what they want but doing the thing that they think will earn them points with wankers on Twitter. Exactly what they did with the pundits, nobody gives a fuck what Eni Fucking Aluko has got to say about a league she's never played in, but she's got a fanny so we must tolerate her.
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w4hammer
3:08 Fri May 7
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One own goal has been the academy system or (RTC) as they call it. None of them are in inner cities and it has created a white middle class talent pool. The non RTC's which include West Ham and Spurs charge between £300 - £600 a year to play. A girl that made her debut for West Ham the other week would have been something like that not that long ago. Compare that to Chelsea offering private schooling and 1 on 1 coaching to 7yo boys.
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Id thought that Greg so good intel - seems like most players are from good backgrounds and you explain why
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Mike Oxsaw
3:03 Fri May 7
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Needs a Women's European Super League. That'll sort it.
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gregan
3:03 Fri May 7
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It is relative to where it should be with its history. It will improve because :
- there are 12 Pro clubs now from 2018. So more players train more. Before then it was semi pro at best. Women's pro football in this country is essentially 3 years old.
- the player pool. Lucy Bronze like many of the older England players was the only girl at her school or in her town that played and the only girl in a boys team. 1 girl player. Thousands of boy players. Only in the last few years has participation really kicked on. Now girls are playing from 5 or 6 years old in all girls teams and with boys. More players, more training, more oppoortunties.
- the older goalkeepers got hardly any specialist training. England internationals getting 1 session a week from an old bloke booting a ball at them. No surprise that the best 3 or 4 goalkeepers in England now are all youngsters with specialist training early. There are still a lack of girl goalkeepers at grassroots and goalkeeper provision.
- One own goal has been the academy system or (RTC) as they call it. None of them are in inner cities and it has created a white middle class talent pool. The non RTC's which include West Ham and Spurs charge between £300 - £600 a year to play. A girl that made her debut for West Ham the other week would have been something like that not that long ago. Compare that to Chelsea offering private schooling and 1 on 1 coaching to 7yo boys.
Like the men as a nation we are not as technical as some and that's partly down to the coaching development. Watching Phil Neville try and make England pass out from the back like Barcelona was car crash when most of them have been used to pinging it the majority of their career.
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TJD
2:40 Fri May 7
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I watch the West Ham Women's team and the standard is noticeably improving year by year but the standard drops off very quickly after the top six or seven clubs, almost all of the top international players are playing for the big four. As soon as a WSL team playes a lower league side in the cup, you;re looking at double figures every time.
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Sven Roeder
2:33 Fri May 7
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Have always said that womens football is a good thing if it encourages girls to stay in sport and have role models to work towards.
But I have absolutely nil interest in watching it ... like I do with National League, League 1 & 2 mens football as its average. Or poor.
It IS getting to a point where its getting its OWN sponsors which is a good thing but it still is financed by the mens game so I think they should pull their heads in re equal pay etc.
If you have a situation like in the US where I think the womens team brings in more revenue than the mens team then they should receive that.
But if West Ham are charging £20 or something for a womens team season ticket then THAT is their real financial earning power. Until they can generate more
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Lee Trundle
2:17 Fri May 7
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Blatter's suggestion that they should wear tighter shorts was probably his finest moment.
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Mike Oxsaw
2:13 Fri May 7
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Every one knows that the more it is on TV the better it is.
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penners28
1:52 Fri May 7
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womans football is akin to a league 1 sunday football game. my FIL works for a step 4 club and they would batter the international team. His u16 academy team beat the england team 5-2 a few years back. Said they were embarrassing, and only scored the 2 as his lads started taking the piss at the end.
This isnt sexist btw. the womans team are shocking compared to mens teams
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w4hammer
1:34 Fri May 7
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El Scorchio 1:23 Fri May 7
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No, it's rubbish because it's just an even more exaggerated mirror image of the men's game. A couple of the usual clubs right at the top steamrollering everyone else.
Leonard Hatred 12:40 Fri May 7
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Splitarse football will never be a popular spectator sport, because it's fucking shit.
It's as simple as that.
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EXACTLY ..
In pronciple I think it would be great to encourage and develop a different style of football that provided role models and direction - they seem to want to mirror whats already been done
AND DONT GET ME STARTED ON THAT MEGAN ARAPAHO thing
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El Scorchio
1:23 Fri May 7
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No, it's rubbish because it's just an even more exaggerated mirror image of the men's game. A couple of the usual clubs right at the top steamrollering everyone else.
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